Ok, in photoshop, you can eraser the background around an image right? So why can't you do that in gimp? Is there a way save the smart scissors? Eraser? That has to be more simple that does not take a ton of time...
for a long period I tried to cut backgrounds or to extract hair / subtle details with Gimp.
For different instances I found different good techniques - so complex object extraction from layers can be done right with GIMP. But the main problem remain - we need a special tool for that. Indeed complex techniques eat a ton of time.
We have alpha blending in GIMP with BW model - which model is used also in photoshop - we have color extraction tool too - all we need now is "developer time" >> someone need to do a fine tuning control / controls for color extraction tool to separate a color range which will become alpha ( not to extract whe whole color from the whole colors from image ). A control for tolerance similar to Fuzzy Select Tool tolerance control will be useful too.
Maybe the best thing what we can do is to make a little brainstorm to imagine this tool ( control, selectors, behaviors ..). When we will have a solid draft - we can discuss with the dev team - else noone will start to work on something based on 2,5 opinions.
We can work on-line ON this "forum" for example or on other place. Someone join here ?
IIRC the paper about the foreground extraction algoithm (SIOX) has something about detail refinement. This is also approached by one of the Google Summer of Code projects this year.
Here I summarize the thread.
First poster apparently doesn't know about the foreground extraction tool in Gimp (I didn't either. The tool uses an algorithm called SIOX whose project has a website.) The tool lets you free select approximately around a foreground object, then brush stroke approximately inside the foreground object, and then refines the selection to the edge of the foreground object. If you can select a foreground object, then inverting the selection should let you easily white out or delete the background. (See the Gimp User Manual on-line, as I did.)
Second poster ("need the right tool") may be suggesting that the foreground selection tool is not accurate enough for images of hair and other finely detailed structures.
Third poster ("IIRC") is saying that such a more accurate tool (or an adjunct to the existing foreground extraction tool) is under development for a new version of Gimp, 2.8. See the SIOX website for a discussion.
Fourth poster suggests a way to manually refine any selection using the Quick Mask and a brush. That's a useful technique, but still is tedious if it is hair or other detail that you are trying to select.
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the fifth poster, me, suggest in case of details as hair to consider this approach
http://www.gimpusers.com/tutorials/highpass-masking.html
there explain also how recreate the effect of a high pass filter, BUT you may speed up using one of the high pass filter for gimp
(one,from RobA should be listed on this registry)
Yes, there is. In the lower left corner of the image window, you'll see a small dotted square. If you hover over that square, a pop-up will explain that this is the Toggle Quick Mask tool. Click on that little square and a red mask will overlay your photo.
You can use the paint brush to alternately paint white or black onto this mask. Start with white. As you paint, you'll notice that white painted areas will erase the red masking to reveal the original color beneath. Those areas are the active selection. Click on that Toggle tool at lower left to remove the red and revel the dotted lines indicating your selection.
Re-toggle to put back the mask and continue selecting. If you over-select, just hit 'x' to switch the brush color to black and paint those areas that you want to deselect.
You can use this method in combination with the scissors select tool, and, with practice, can achieve very accurate selections. Obviously, in many situations, you'll want to work under high image magnifications, and you can vary the size of the brush tool, and you can also vary the type of brush - feathered, hard, etc.
It's very flexible, and, with practice, you'll get very good results.
Don't overlook the polygon tool as another option to use in combination with the quick mask and scissors tool.
In combination, these are very useful tools, and you can do most anything in Gimp that can be achieved selection-wise in any other application.
Good luck. Hope this was useful.
Caruso
We still need the right tool
IIRC the paper about the
Foreground background extraction summary
Foreground background extraction summary -add on
Yes, there is. In the lower